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Cruel Despot	Dowload free 3.5 rules	Lead	[-]
Posts: 2278 (07/27/03 10:16:17) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None Want a free copy of the 3.5 rules? I downloaded the 3.5 SRD files from the wizards website, put them together (except for the psionics rules and most of the monster manual), and added some artwork that I took from the old 1979 basic D&D rulebook. It comes in at just over 500 pages. Not bad compared to the published PHB and DMG put together. right click and save as: us.share.geocities.com/crueldespot/despot_srd.pdf Andoraxes version (hosted on www.3rdedition.org) - added by Jim The file is 4.65 MB. If more than a couple of people dowload it in the same hour, geocities will shut it down for an hour or so. Just try again later. Yes, it is not attractive- but you can't beat the price. I wouldn't recommend printing it out unless you have "after hours" (wink wink) access to a laser printer. Otherwise just use it as an electronic reference. Edited to fix link
bedouin22	Or don't	#1	[-]
Posts: 374 (07/27/03 10:50:33) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	A. Hasbro own's wotc, B. Real People, who actualy care about the game, who work realy hard, and who personaly interact with the fans, put loads of creative effort into the release of 3.o and 3.5 C. Hasbro will judge the efforts of those real people against the success, (sales), of the books. Most every one agrees that 3.5 is a pretty good thing. Cruel Despot thinks so because he took the time to mooch it off the net. Yes the 3.5 release was used to make profits but there's nothing unethical about releasing an improved product that warrents the unethical reprisal of theft. You replace the tires on your friken bicycle don't you? The SRD is there to be used. I have a coppy on my harddrive and a coppy on disc. I also own the PHB3.5 and intend to buy the other two. The SRD is there to be used but if you can by the books, you should. Cruel Despot just screwed real people, creative professionals, who demonstrate evident loyalty to all of us. Furthermore this thread ought to be in the Community forum [edit]Sorry for preaching. I don't know what got into me this week. Cruel Despot; I don't care what you do, I'm just saying it sucks when people steal your work.[/edit]
Hejdun	Re: Or don't	#2	[-]
Posts: 2481 (07/27/03 12:01:06) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Wizards decided to make this stuff free and available. Cruel is using information directly from the company itself, and he is legally free to do so. There's nothing unethical about that. *Quote:* Cruel Despot just screwed real people, creative professionals, who demonstrate evident loyalty to all of us. I'd argue that Wizards only cares about $$$.
Cruel Despot	Re: Or do	#3	[-]
Posts: 2278 (07/27/03 12:01:37) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I think you are trying to hurt my feelings! Perhaps you thought that my link goes to a scanned copy of the 3.5 books that are sold in stores. It does not. It goes to a reorganized edition of the SRD. Hasbro posted the SRD on the internet- on purpose. I didn't "hack" it. Why should they post it if they don't want us to use it? You have your own copy of the SRD that you use as an electronic reference. The document that I made available is just the same thing, but optimized for easier use. With my version you can search by keyword through the whole rules at once, without having to search through multiple documents. The only other change in mine is that I added some really really old artwork that wasn't earning anyone any money these days anyway. If you worked for Hasbro (I don't know- maybe you do) then you would be making your company into a giant hypocrite. When people complained about the expense of buying new books for 3.5, Hasbro responded "Hey, we're posting the SRD for free on the internet so you won't have to buy it." Then when we use the free version they posted, we are accused of theft. Nice. So what the heck are you talking about, Bedouin? and why would a link to the 3.5 SRD go anywhere but in the 3.5 rules forum?
hreslingozer	cruel	#4	[-]
Posts: 489 (07/27/03 16:04:57) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yes, it seems Hasbro (or, more specifically, its shareholders) only care about $$$$. But it also seems that Cruel is very concerned about the $$$$ as well. I don't find anything illegal or even immoral with what Cruel has done. In fact, I find it quite ingeneous. But it certainly does nothing to support the development and continuation of DnD.
Zenslade	free.	#5	[-]
Posts: 80 (07/27/03 16:52:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	It is free. FREE FREE FREE. Take your bickering elsewhere. Wizards intended for it to be free, so it is free. It does not have all of the rules and fancy artwork and easy of use that the books have, thats the catch. I don't plan on buying the books, the SRD fits me perfectly.
sirtaylsdm	Re: free.	#6	[-]
Posts: 7150 (07/27/03 19:13:14) ADHD Teacher Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	children, play nice or don't play at all. I agree the SRD is free, and according to the OGL website: *Quote:* You may consider this material Open Game Content under the Open Game License, and may use, modify, and distribute it. the only thing you may not do is reword it and publish it as your own. taylor I am your father, Luke. Give in to the dark side of the force, you knob.
Lance Richardsen	Congratulations are in order	#7	[-]
Posts: 603 (07/27/03 19:40:52) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	You did an excellent job putting the SRD together. Good work Despot! This is much preferable to the SRD and greatly appreciated. I use Open Office and the tables don't line up well, requiring I save the SRD to my computer and reformat anyway. As I was going to do something similar you've saved me an incredible amount of time and work. Next time you're in Vancouver I'll take you out for drinks!
Carter Lupus	Re: Congratulations are in order	#8	[-]
Posts: 1430 (07/28/03 05:45:21) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	*Quote:* [edit]Sorry for preaching. I don't know what got into me this week. Cruel Despot; I don't care what you do, I'm just saying it sucks when people steal your work.[/edit] Hey, like the others said, it ain't no crime! Nothing is stolen. The people who created this made it public. Carry on please, and thanks for the link. ___________________________________________ "Friends! How Do You Stand With The Lord?" Carter Lupus, level one cleric of God Of The Month -Use caution when receiving sponteaneous castings. -Granted powers and domain spells may change every month.
Raitaro	Ask wotc	#9	[-]
Posts: 2 (07/28/03 14:18:49) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The System Reference Document is a comprehensive toolbox consisting of rules, races, classes, feats, skills, various systems, spells, magic items, and monsters compatible with the d20 System version of Dungeons & Dragons and various other roleplaying games from Wizards of the Coast. You may consider this material Open Game Content under the Open Game License, and may use, modify, and distribute it. www.wizards.com/d20/files/v35/SRD.zip
Laguna	Re: Ask wotc	#10	[-]
Posts: 3519 (07/30/03 14:25:43) Local user Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Well, I already have the three 3.5 books, so I guess I'll just use this to sound snazzy by having exact quotes in my posts . What the deuce are you staring at? It's tuna fish... and nothing else!
Cruel Despot	The despot is pleased	#11	[-]
Posts: 2278 (07/31/03 04:28:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I got thumbtacked! Awesome! Thanks for the words of support.
Sagramore Impetuoso	the link do not work	#12	[-]
Posts: 8 (08/01/03 02:45:49) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Please, the link Cruel posted do not work. Why? Sagramore
Lance Richardsen	Re: the link do not work	#13	[-]
Posts: 603 (08/01/03 09:35:44) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	IMP - Right click the link and select 'save as' CD - only suggestion so far is that the 'Shields' table falls off the left side of the pdf. Other than that, my groups love you!
Andorax	Re: the link do not work	#14	[-]
Posts: 7052 (08/01/03 11:23:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Thanks, Cruel Despot. This will come in very handy when I'm away from my 3.5 books. One minor critique: The Traps, Weather & Environment, and Monsters (Animals) headers are not large and red like the rest of your headers. Also, I have gone through and added Bookmarks where all of the section headers are located (and a few more). You can find the bookmarked version here. Should work all the time. Cruel Despot, by all means please update your own version with the bookmarked one here. I'm not taking any credit at all for what took me all of about five minutes...and drop me an email if ever you have an updated version, I'll be happy to copy it over at my site (call it an "official mirror" if you will). "Whadda ya mean, Orcs get levels too?!?"
Cruel Despot	Thanks for the help	#15	[-]
Posts: 2278 (08/01/03 18:37:50) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I'm sorry about the errors, but not surprised. It's a long document and I didn't have much time. Unfortunately, I am not in a position to fix the imperfections now. I created the document on my last weekend in the states. I was visiting my folks for the weekend while I was stationed at Fort Benning, and had some time to kill. I'm now in Afghanistan, typing on a public-access "morale" PC. One advantage: If WOTC does take offense, I am shielded from civil action while I'm over here! That is DR 20/lawsuit. Just kidding. I wouldn't have done it if the OGL didn't specifically permit it. I appreciate any improvements by Andorax or others. Take the ball and run with it! Rename it "The Andoraxian Handbook" if you like. By the time I get back, I predict that there will be errata and an updated version will be called for.
Drakey	Re: Dowload free 3.5 rules	#16	[-]
Posts: 3119 (08/14/03 17:14:56) Local user Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yes, bedouin, the poor, innocent megacorporations of the world should be protected from greedy, unscrupulous individuals . . oh, wait . . . "strike that, reverse it."
MerricB	Re: free.	#17	[-]
Posts: 3143 (08/19/03 17:38:40) The Killer DM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	*Quote:* the only thing you may not do is reword it and publish it as your own. Actually, the only thing you can't do is publish it without a copy of the OGL. Or claim compatibility with D&D. You can reword it, sell it, etc. But you must have the OGL, and the Section 15 information that says that your new product is based on the 3.5E SRD. Cheers! *Merric, the Dreamer-Minstrel* Have you visitied Merric's D&D page? - new magic, adventures and helpful advice!
RoninBK	Stop the Presses!!!	#18	[-]
Posts: 47 (08/20/03 02:47:28) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	True, the 3.5 SRD is Open Game Content, and according to the Open Gaming Licence, you have "a perpetual, worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive license with the exact terms of this License to Use, the Open Game Content" However, there is a MAJOR problem with your PDF... *Quote:* I downloaded the 3.5 SRD files from the wizards website, put them together... and added some artwork that I took from the old 1979 basic D&D rulebook The artwork is NOT Open Game Content!!! The artwork from the 1979 books would be considered Product Identity of WotC, and be considered a violation of the OGL. Under section 13, you have 30 days to edit the pictures out, or you lose the right to use the OGL.
Half Dragon	Better version.	#19	[-]
Posts: 95 (08/20/03 11:45:24) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I also own all the 3.5 books, but I like the bookmaking abilities of a .pdf There is a really good version of the 3.5 SRD out on Kazaa, which includes nothing but the SRD, and bookmarkes. Lots of bookmarks. Whoever put this thing togeather is a bigger bookmark freak than me. Anyway, it is nicely done. If you want to find it, check under documents for the title '3.5 Player's handbook', or the author 'Telvin' "On top of Old Smokey, All covered with grass. I saw a bald eagle, Scratching his ... arm" Lupa Solus
Azeitona	Thanks	#20	[-]
Posts: 1 (08/22/03 08:50:43) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Without getting involved in right or wrong. Pro or Con. I'd like to say that 'knowledge is power'. Information in a organized format is absorbed more readily. Thank you for providing me with this compilation that organizes things fairly well. Azeitona D'Billis 51st Shadowknight <Arx Arcanum>

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